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Post by Sadira Black on Feb 1, 2013 3:32:52 GMT -5
That's true. For me, it all depends on the person and the situation. I'll react whichever way will have the best outcome. With some people, being subtle just won't work.
I'm extremely bipolar, but you wouldn't really guess that at first. I feel my emotions much, much deeper than people without bipolar do, so... Well, I don't really know how to explain it.
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Post by Jewel Leigh on Feb 1, 2013 20:59:45 GMT -5
I would say gryffindors are more prone to angry outbursts - even possibly hurting someone. A Slytherin would get back at the the person by revenge and passive agressive anger. The fact that you say you throw things, makes you seem more gyrrindor. Also, by saying you regret it means you did it by impulse... not a delibrate planning. Gryffindors can say mean things n impulse too.
As far as Slytherins and Gryffindors being opposite.... I don’t think so. I mean, YES, water and fire are opposites, but I see Gryffindor and Ravenclaw being oppoites. Perhaps that just because I am opposite of Gryffindor. I believe all of the houses overlap traits in somedays - more like a circle than square.
Anyway, Slytherin and Gryffindors clash so much not because of their differences but because of their simularities. They are definately the two most outwardly passionate and forceful houses. They are both attention-getters in their own way and likely to be in the spotlight. It’s their motivations that are quite different. Slytherins are motivated by personal ambition whereas Gryffindors want to fight for justice and personal honor. This is where they clash, because Gryffindors see Slytherins as selfish and Slytherins see Gryffindors as self-righteous.
As far as loyalty, I do believe Slytherins can be loyal (although perhaps not quick to bond to that sort of loyalty to just anyone, or ask for loyalty in return). Using Draco is an example isn’t the best, because while he did side with his family, it wasn’t just for loyalty’s sake (he was scared and also unlikely to be accepted anywhere else for that matter). As far as Gryffindors -- I would say Hufflepuffs are the loyal ones. Gryffindors are loyal too, but it’s motivated by a since of justice and honor. It isn’t “right” to betray your friends, so most won’t. Most Slytherins wouldn’t betray their friends either, but that’s because they have need of them (even Slytherins want companionship).
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Post by Sadira Black on Feb 1, 2013 21:40:22 GMT -5
Haha, XD I didn't mean literally throwing things. I mean throwing every bit of nasty information, every mistake, every regret that I know the other person has. Whatever will let me win the argument.
I can see your point there. I will admit that I have a lot more Gryffindor in me than Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff, but I still think that I have more Slytherin than Gryffindor. I dunno.
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Post by Jewel Leigh on Feb 3, 2013 14:20:50 GMT -5
LOL. Well, point still remains: rather figuratively or literally throwing things, it's impulsive-based and not deliberately malicious. Many actions can have the same result in the end, but it's intent that makes a difference on a personal level.
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Post by Euca on Feb 3, 2013 23:22:01 GMT -5
I agree with you. Most people assume Gryffindor and Slytherin clash because they're different, but that's not true at all. It's the way they do things and the reasons for which they do them that makes them different, even though what they generally do is similar. Puffs are definitely much more loyal, also because they don't seem to do it for personal gain or out of some weird moral obligation to do the right thing. That's what always annoys me about the Gryffs...
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Post by Sadira Black on Feb 4, 2013 4:52:43 GMT -5
Well, I guess that's the one puff attribute I have. I am fiercely loyal to anyone I care about. I will literally do everything in my power to protect them and keep them from being hurt. And if they are hurt, whether it is physically or emotionally, I will do everything I can to make it better, whether that means going to visit them when they are sick at the risk to being sick myself, or lashing out at the person who hurt them. But the thing with me is, I'm like Mr. Darcy in one way. If you get on my good side, I'll care for you for the rest of your life. But if you get on my bad side, then I will basically ignore your existence. Well, maybe Mr. Darcy wasn't the best example... XD But I love that quote of his. "My good opinion, once lost, is lost forever"
Can I just take a moment to appreciate the brilliance that is Jane Austen?
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Post by Jewel Leigh on Feb 4, 2013 11:43:27 GMT -5
That doesn't sound like Hufflepuff loyalty. Seems strange to categorize type of loyalty, but you speak of a great passion and division. Extremes, I guess, as opposed to being loyal but keeping it on a level, even support, which is more how I see Hufflepuffs.
Jane Austen's works bore me. Don't hurt me. lol. -_- I've read a lot of her books and it's always love and marriage - and marriage, marriage... I don't care! For their time, the females portrayed were very progressive. Also, on the positive side, I give Jane Austen credit for well-developed characters, and her books are far superior to the garbage that is in so-called, modern-day "romance novels."
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Post by Euca on Feb 4, 2013 12:10:01 GMT -5
I don't associate Puffs with that kind of loyalty either. They don't seem fierce enough for that. That's more like Gryffindor, if anything. *shrugs*
I haven't read a lot of work so I can't say...
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Post by Sadira Black on Feb 4, 2013 23:15:47 GMT -5
*shrugs* I just know that I am fiercely loyal. Haha. Yeah, Jane Austen's novels are all about love and marriage, which is normally not my style. I'm all for fantasy and action, but every once in a while I'll be in the mood for a good romance. My favorite by far though is Pride and Prejudice.
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Post by dejirah on Feb 5, 2013 2:20:33 GMT -5
If you like fantasy, action, and science fiction with a bit of romance, try Firebird. It's a trilogy by Kathy Tyres (only available on ebook atm, out of print, but it's so brilliant, I have it both in print and ebook). It's a Christian fiction novel and it's absolutely fantastic. I've read it four times and am planning on reading it again while drawing the planets as I see them.
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Post by Sadira Black on Feb 5, 2013 5:07:36 GMT -5
I'll have to look it up! I'll put it on my list of many books to read. XD
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2013 5:49:54 GMT -5
I don't associate Puffs with that kind of loyalty either. They don't seem fierce enough for that. That's more like Gryffindor, if anything. *shrugs* I have to disagree with that. I think Puffs are more than capable of fierce loyalty - what would make them different is their inability to *stop* having faith in someone, like Sadira said - I don't think a Puff would do that, stop speaking to someone (unless it was really bad, of course), but rather, continue to have faith in them. Ofcourse they can be fierce! But it's a fierceness of a different kind than you associate with Gryffindors or Slytherins, a fierce belief and faith, incapable of turning ones' back on another.
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Post by Euca on Feb 5, 2013 12:32:08 GMT -5
Agreed. But what I meant was that their fierce loyalty and belief is manifested in a different way from Gryffindors or Slytherins. Gryffindors and Hufflepuffs are kinda similar in the way they just have endless faith and things just magically work out for them too...
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Post by Jewel Leigh on Feb 5, 2013 22:52:20 GMT -5
Hufflepuff have strong loyalty, which can be fierce, but I think you hit it when you said loyalty of faith and belief, Arctic. It's supporting. Always being there to support another. When Sadira mentioned loyalty, she was all about protecting and standing up for the other person, even at personal risk. That seems more like how a Gryffindor would see loyalty.
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Post by Sadira Black on Feb 6, 2013 0:08:49 GMT -5
Then possibly the loyalty is Hufflepuff, but the way I show it is Gryffindor.
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